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qoou cheat - never

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:30 pm
by redslayer
I'm sick of cheating in this game.
I played a qoou and the fooker cheated somehow.
One burst at distance (beach to ramp under gun) can kill?
I've played this game long enuff to know what kills and what doesn't.

Wot is the fookin point in having clans?
Wot is the point in playing even?

You all know what i'm talking about. You KNOW when something doesn't seem right.

Is there a clan, or a game where cheats don't exist?

qoou has a cheat as a member.

boot me - but i'm fookin right, and i'm fookin not happy, i expected different.

Red

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 12:21 am
by special_Kare
OMG Redslayer!!!

I can not believe that you can even try to accuse me of cheating!!!!

I HAVE NEVER CHEATED AT THIS GAME EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just because I have good aim DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT WAS A CHEAT!!!

YOU CAN KILL SOMEONE FROM A DISTANCE WITH THE MINI ESPECIALLY WITH LOW PING ON YOUR SIDE!!!!!

BTW, there is always an unfair advantage playing me on the qoou server because of the super low ping i get SEEING HOW THE SERVER IS RIGHT AT MY FEET!!!!!


Whats the point in cheating on your own server while trying to play against a fellow qoou member for fun. Does that make any logical sense at all??:? If you were getting upset that I was pwning your ass then you should have said it was upsetting you and I would have eased up.


So you think what you want and be a cry baby for all I Kare :cry:

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:14 am
by Captain_Obvious
lolol I think it's funny how the same people that accuse you of cheating are the always the same people who ask things like "how did you jump so high?" after you've hammer launched. (not calling Red a noob, but most people who accuse us are)

I'm glad to see you're posting Red! I for one can promise that I've never cheated at ut. (with the exception of using the "fly" command a time or 2 but only when messing around) And I dont know of any other qoou that ever cheats.

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:50 am
by LD8242
tut tut CO using fly you cheater :chased: :wink:

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:34 am
by Denial
After 300 hours of UT I'd hope SK could kill SOMEONE from long distances with a mini...it's certainly not me! ;)

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:23 pm
by Turbo_asswhup
you should see his mad sniping skills.

he even shot my head off while i was moving!! :D :D :D :D

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:45 pm
by De_Fault
redslayer wrote:I'm sick of cheating in this game.
Me too Damn it !!! but moreover I'm really really sick of whinners who accuse people of cheating without a single shread of proof..
redslayer wrote:One burst at distance (beach to ramp under gun) can kill?
Well then that explains it. It obviously wasn't a member to the qoou clan because most of them don't know what the minigun is, or where to find one on a map. :) except Sonya, watch out for her !!! she's a sneaky one she is !!! Me thinks she is the mastermind and brains behind this organzation. :shock: hehe j/k Sonya... or am I ? hmmmm :)
redslayer wrote: I've played this game long enuff to know what kills and what doesn't.
Well you certainly know the minigun kills, Congrats !!! you are well on your way to becoming a UT GOD !!!
redslayer wrote:Wot is the fookin point in having clans?
Why is there Air ? what's your point?
redslayer wrote:Wot is the point in playing even?
For people like you, there isn't any point, uninstall UT as soon as you can.

redslayer wrote:You all know what i'm talking about. You KNOW when something doesn't seem right.
I know exactly what you mean, your post here gives me that feeling. No Proof, only your word? hmmm...
redslayer wrote:Is there a clan, or a game where cheats don't exist?
For someone like you, who will whine everytime you are killed probaly not.
redslayer wrote:qoou has a cheat as a member.
Since you once wore the qoon clan tag, I vote YOU !!!

Here is the proof you offered for you accusation.
redslayer wrote:I played a qoou and the fooker cheated somehow.
redslayer wrote:but i'm fookin right
Ah yes the "somehow" cheat. You can find details about this cheat in the "How to play Online Games and act like an Ass" book. You find all the info about this cheat in the chapter titled "Someone Killed Me, They must be cheating!"
redslayer wrote:and i'm fookin not happy
Sorry to hear that. :(
redslayer wrote: i expected different.
Sounds to me like you have a long lifetime of disappointment in store for you.

I looked up your IP from TheGameBox logs, you play from the UK.

The qoou server is located in the states.

According to this website http://www.wcrl.ars.usda.gov/cec/java/lat-long.htm
there is a distance of 3537.628586406177 miles between you and the qoou server (or if perfer 5693.261339761263 km).

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Do you think it is remotely possible that latency over these distances could be a factor?

If you have proof someone is cheating then fine, post it so it can reviewed. Making an accussation without offering proof just makes you look foolish.

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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:04 pm
by special_Kare
1 De>>:nuts:<<Red 0


:toker:

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:51 pm
by Bitchy
I hate cheaters too...

There was this time, that I was dating this guy and I saw him making out with someone else, so, what I did was, I went out and found out the phone numbers of all of his previous girlfriends. Then, I seduced them all ('cause you know it's easy to get women to have sex with other women). After that, I had them all call him up to tell him that sleeping with a woman was better than sleeping with him. It was hilarious.

[edit]
Hmmmm...

I just re-read the original message. I think we might be talking about a different kind of cheating. Sorry... my mistake.

ps.

Thanks, De, for posting. You addressed everything perfectly well so all I was left with was this little story to tell. which is certainly more interesting than the original post. :)

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 6:04 am
by Sonya_=)
De_Fault wrote:
redslayer wrote:One burst at distance (beach to ramp under gun) can kill?
Well then that explains it. It obviously wasn't a member to the qoou clan because most of them don't know what the minigun is, or where to find one on a map. :) except Sonya, watch out for her !!! she's a sneaky one she is !!! Me thinks she is the mastermind and brains behind this organzation. :shock: hehe j/k Sonya... or am I ? hmmmm :)

:O DE! u naughty bum! u better not be joking otherwise pwoah i will get mad.. n when i get mad.. u dun wanna no :p hehehe naw

i no i suck but at least i admit it :p

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:49 am
by Megor
suck does not close to describing your skills

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:00 am
by special_Kare
suck does not close to describing your grammar :puke:

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:57 am
by Sonya_=)
special_Kare wrote:suck does not close to describing your grammar :puke:
lmao rolled!! :lol:

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:51 pm
by Turbo_asswhup
special_Kare wrote:suck does not close to describing your grammar :puke:

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:23 pm
by Megor
me no speak english? That's unpossible

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:34 pm
by Sonya_=)
my grandma says me no speak english so so soooo much it cracks me up especially when stupid fone calls come or ppl come to her door hehehe

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 6:37 pm
by redslayer
All,

If not a qoou member, then they were using the tag.

If I gave a damn about losing - I'd have quit years ago. Losing makes me determined to get better. I give a damn about fair-play - play with the skill you have at the game - not at hacking it.
I've seen too many game-servers with cheating going on. I know a lot of ppl who have quit clans 'because it's pointless pitting your skill against hack-cheats'.

Latency over distance?
Where did 'latency over distance' disappear to in the last 10,000 games that I played on US servers?
I WOULD be stupid to not take consistency into account.
Does the 'ping' speed not actually kill that argument?

The mini-gun at that distance NEVER kills in the bursts that I had, with 100% health - why did it this time? Regularly?

'Prove' an accusation - this is saying 'never accuse' - I can't prove that hacks are being used - only admin can do that (and not all the time either).

Don't take the piss and 'gang-up' - explain it to me, and don't talk shite about being in the UK - my ping is as high/higher than most.

Another one for you: can you kill someone and they still hit a switch successfully? Has anyone EVER experienced this?

If so - how? It certainly ain't logical. Either a) they hit the switch and my 'bullet' can't hit them or b) my 'bullet' hits and kills them and they can't touch the switch. Or is this possibly down to the dreaded 'latency over distance' again? Or is it a little 'delay' that UT designers allowed?

Yep - you'll stick together and ridicule newcomers who don't 'toe-the-line'; at the same time however - if you want to prove that what happens is logical - then give a reason, otherwise - accusations aren't ever unproven.
If you don't give a damn - again no problem - just say so.

ATB

RedSlayer

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 7:07 pm
by De_Fault
redslayer wrote: accusations aren't ever unproven.RedSlayer
So if I was to throw out an accusation (that I can't prove) and determine that you must have cheats installed on your side that are causing you extra lag, therefore is causing you to have bad experiences in the game. Can you disprove this? No, would we believe you, No.

The point is throwing around accuastation that people "must be" cheating because you have no explaination for it, is pointless, rude, and not based on a fact. It is a rumor, YOU have the responsibility of providing proof. You made the accusation, back it up with some proof or be prepared to be treated as a whinner!!!
redslayer wrote:If not a qoou member, then they were using the tag
You made the accusation which you apparently realize could have happen in some other way. Yet you did not offer an apology to the admins or the clan, you kept right on with blaming everyone else.

The second point here is if you are thinking someone is cheating you, why in the world would you go back and play in the server again?

If you are concerned about fair play then stick to LAN parties where you can physically look at everyones machines and setup. Remove any doubt that lag is an issue.

I am sure people cheat in online video games, and they are sad little terds that do this, the only person that you can only be 100% sure about is you.

Throwing around factless allegations in IMHO opinions is as just as bad, espesscially to an admin of the server you are playing on. A very simple concept to follow is, don't like the server, don't trust the staff who run it, then leave, find another.

But that may be a moot point, as s_K has decided to deal with you already.